Game Theory w/ Sam Vecenie

Sam Vecenie is joined by friends to discuss the NBA, NBA Draft, college basketball, high school basketball, and everything in between. Oh, and they'll randomly talk about movies and more.
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Aug 27, 2018

It's back. The Top-25 players in the NBA, 23 and Under list makes its second annual appearance on the Game Theory Podcast. This time, Cole Zwicker and I break down the players listed Nos. 25 to No. 17 here, and also chat about some of the players that just barely missed the list. 

As usual, a quick rundown on eligibility: Any NBA player (including rookies) who are born 1995 or later. 

From last time: 

17. Markelle Fultz

18. Marvin Bagley

19. Aaron Gordon

20. Myles Turner

21. Kyle Kuzma

22. D’Angelo Russell

23. Dennis Smith

24. Josh Jackson

25. Trae Young

Aug 24, 2018

It's back. The Top-25 players in the NBA, 23 and Under list makes its second annual appearance on the Game Theory Podcast. This time, Cole Zwicker and I break down the players listed Nos. 25 to No. 17 here, and also chat about some of the players that just barely missed the list. 

As usual, a quick rundown on eligibility: Any NBA player (including rookies) who are born 1995 or later. Having fallen off the list from last season due to age: Joel Embiid, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Gary Harris, and Jusuf Nurkic. 


Aug 17, 2018

In this episode, Cole Zwicker joins the podcast to chat about Duke, the Warriors, Clippers, and Lakers. 

First, they chat about Duke's win over Ryerson in the exhibition schedule, chatting specifically about RJ Barrett and Zion Williamson's performance. Should we think about Zion differently? Is Barrett the clear No. 1? 

Then, they jump into breaking down the Warriors, Clippers, and Lakers prospects, including some story time about the run up at UCLA's practice gym. Here's the order in which we discuss prospects. 

Golden State Warriors: Jordan Bell, Kevon Looney, Patrick McCaw, Jacob Evans, Damian Jones, Kendrick Nunn

LA Clippers: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jerome Robinson, Ty Wallace, Sindarius Thornwell, Jawun Evans. Angel Delgado. Johnathan Motley

LA Lakers: Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart, Svi Mykhailiuk, Ivica Zubac, Moe Wagner, Alex Caruso, Isaac Bonga, Joel Berry, Jeffrey Carroll, Johnathan Williams III

Aug 13, 2018

In this episode, Cole Zwicker joins, and we chat about some of the later moves in free agency. We also chat about the Knicks stating their intention to buy out Joakim Noah, a move that makes absolutely zero sense to us. We also discuss the Pelicans signing Jahlil Okafor, and why Okafor has failed in the NBA so far. Then we talk about the Sam Dekker trade. 

Then we move on and get into the meat of the podcast. We break down the prospects for the Oklahoma City Thunder, the Portland Trail Blazers, and the Utah Jazz. Here is the rough order we go in, including all of the prospects we break down in detail. 

Oklahoma City: Alex Abrines, Hamidou Diallo, Devon Hall, Deonte Burton, Kevin Hervey, Tim Luwawu Cabarrot, Abdel Nader, Terrance Ferguson

Portland: Zach Collins, Anfernee Simons, Gary Trent Jr., Caleb Swanigan, Jake Layman, Wade Baldwin

Utah: Donovan Mitchell, Dante Exum, Royce O’Neale, Grayson Allen, Tony Bradley

Aug 9, 2018

A two-part podcast. First, I chat with Brian Snow from 247Sports for 25 minutes about the announced NCAA rule changes yesterday that show a pretty blatant misunderstanding of the process that elite level basketball players undertake now. On the recruiting calendar changes, the draft changes, the agency changes, and everything else. 

Then, I chat with Cole Zwicker, where the two of us drastically underestimate how long it is going to take us to get through the Northwest Division prospects in the NBA and instead decide to just chat about Denver and Minnesota's prospects. We break down Nikola Jokic in-depth, chat about Jamal Murray, Gary Harris briefly, Michael Porter, and the ceiling for Denver's offense.

Then we chat about all of Timberwolves' young players. We chat about Karl-Anthony Towns ceiling, and whether or not I still buy into him having potential MVP potential. How do we rank the young bigs in the NBA? Then, we have the great Andrew Wiggins debate of the summer of 2018. Then we break down all of the others, Tyus Jones, Josh Okogie, and more. 

Aug 6, 2018

In this episode, Cole Zwicker joins Sam on the podcast and chats about the Southwest Division. First, they break down the Rockets' offseason, and chat if they're better or worse equipped to take down the Warriors next season. 

Next, they break down all of the prospects in the Southwest Division, including the Dallas Mavericks, Houston Rockets, Memphis Grizzlies, New Orleans Pelicans, San Antonio Spurs. Here's the list of everyone we chatted about:

Dallas Mavericks: Luka Doncic, Dennis Smith, Jalen Brunson, Ray Spalding, Dorian Finney-Smith, Kostas Antetokounmpo, Chinanu Onuaku, Terry Larrier, Daryl Macon, DING

Houston Rockets: De’Anthony Melton, Gary Clark, Isaiah Hartenstein, Zhou Qi, Vince Edwards

Memphis Grizzlies: Jaren Jackson, Dillon Brooks, Wayne Selden, Jevon Carter, Ivan Rabb, Kobi Simmons, Yuta Watanabe

New Orleans Pelicans: Cheick Diallo, Trevon Bluiett, Frank Jackson, Kenrich Williams

San Antonio Spurs: Lonnie Walker, Dejounte Murray, Jakob Poeltl, Derrick White, Chimezie Metu

Aug 3, 2018

In this episode of the podcast, Sam is joined by Cole Zwicker where the pair discuss the Carmelo Anthony/Dennis Schroder/PHI trade. Then, they get back into breaking down all of the prospects in the NBA, finishing off the Eastern Conference by discussing those in the Southeast Division. 

Again, the cut-offs here are 1995 birthdates or later, or players on rookie contracts under the age of 27. Here is the list of players discussed: 

Atlanta Hawks: Trae Young, John Collins , Taurean Prince, Kevin Huerter, DeAndre Bembry, Omari Spellman, Justin Anderson, Tyler Dorsey, Daniel Hamilton

Charlotte Hornets: Miles Bridges, Malik Monk, Frank Kaminsky, Willy Hernangomez, Dwayne Bacon, Devonte Graham

Miami Heat: Bam Adebayo, Justise Winslow. Derrick Jones Jr., Yante Maten, Derrick Walton

Orlando Magic: Mohamed Bamba, Aaron Gordon, Jonathan Isaac, Melvin Frazier, Jerian Grant, Wes Iwundu, Justin Jackson. Isaiah Briscoe, Troy Caupain

Washington Wizards: Kelly Oubre, Troy Brown, Thomas Bryant, Devin Robinson

Jul 31, 2018

In this episode, Cole Zwicker joins Sam Vecenie and chats about the Kawhi Leonard trade. Do we like the risk for the Raptors now that we're a little bit of a ways out from the decision? Do we like the Spurs still just going in and competing? 

Then, they break down the prospects (23 and under and rookie scale guys) in the Atlantic Division. They are as follows: 

Boston Celtics: Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier, Robert Williams, Semi Ojeleye, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird

Brooklyn Nets: D’Angelo Russell, Caris LeVert, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Dzanan Musa, Rodions Kurucs

New York Knicks: Kristaps Porzingis, Kevin Knox, Frank Ntilikina, Mario Hezonja, Mitchell Robinson, Emmanuel Mudiay, Damyean Dotson, Allonzo Trier

Philadelphia 76ers: Ben Simmons, Dario Saric, Markelle Fultz, Zhaire Smith, TJ McConnell, Furkan Korkmaz, Landry Shamet, Shake Milton

Toronto Raptors: OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam, Delon Wright, Malachi Richardson

Jul 26, 2018

In this episode, Sam Vecenie embarks on a new project with Cole Zwicker, where they break down every prospect either on rookie contracts or born after 1995 on each team. Here, they start with the Central Division. 

Before they do that, though, they break down the Kevin Love extension, a deal that Cole is understanding of but that Sam doesn't really like. Then, they go into prospects, and go in this order: 

Chicago Bulls: Lauri Markkanen, Wendell Carter Jr., Jabari Parker, Zach LaVine, Kris Dunn, Bobby Portis, Chandler Hutchison, Denzel Valentine, Antonio Blakeney, Cameron Payne

Cleveland Cavaliers: Collin Sexton, Cedi Osman, Larry Nance, Ante Zizic, Billy Preston

Detroit Pistons: Luke Kennard, Stanley Johnson, Bruce Brown, Khyri Thomas, Henry Ellenson

Indiana Pacers: Myles Turner, Domantas Sabonis, Aaron Holiday, TJ Leaf, Edmond Sumner, Alize Johnson, Ike Anigbogu

Milwaukee Bucks: Malcolm Brogdon, Thon Maker, Sterling Brown, Donte DiVincenzo, DJ Wilson

Jul 23, 2018

The big Summer League Breakdown podcast! Cole and I run through all of the best and worst that we saw at Summer League this year, giving in-depth breakdowns on all of the highest draft picks, the important second year players, and the third year players still stuck in Vegas. 

If you're interested in a player, the odds are we likely bounced around to him at some point. 


Jul 17, 2018

In this episode, Sam Vecenie chats with Cole Zwicker about some of the bigger moves in the NBA offseason that have happened since the recent podcast. 

Discussion centers around:

-Jabari Parker, Zach LaVine, and the Chicago Bulls

-Kyle Anderson signing and Garrett Temple trade for Memphis

-Remaining free agents Clint Capela, Marcus Smart, Rodney Hood, Montrezl Harrell, and David Nwaba

-Houston Rockets offseason

-Nemanja Bjelica staying overseas and Philadelphia

-Denver gets under the tax

-Brooklyn's smart maneuvering


-Tony Parker to Charlotte

Jul 3, 2018

In this episode, Cole Zwicker and I run through all of free agency's Day 1 transactions outside of LeBron James, chatting about Paul George, where Oklahoma City goes from here, Chris Paul and Trevor Ariza, The Denver moves, Ersan Ilyasova and Doug McDermott, why we like what Brooklyn is doing, and can't really understand Portland. 

Jul 2, 2018

In this episode, Cole Zwicker joins the podcast to chat about -- what else? -- LeBron James' decision to go to the Lakers in free agency. What does the structure of his contract mean? Where do the Lakers go from here? How does the team go about building its roster? How do the young pieces fit? Do they make a move for Kawhi Leonard? How does this affect Julius Randle? 

All that, in addition to some discussion on how this affects the Cavaliers going forward, and what road they should go down to recover. 

Jun 28, 2018

In this episode, Sam Vecenie chats with Vice Sports' Michael Pina about the NBA offseason that is about to come. First, they start with Kawhi Leonard, chat about how potential trades involving him, and how he affects the rest of the process for LeBron James and maybe even Paul George. Then, they get into unrestricted free agency, chatting about some of the players they're most interested in tracking this summer. Finally, they finish on the restricted free agency class, including Marcus Smart, Julius Randle, Dante Exum, Jusuf Nurkic, and more. 

Jun 22, 2018

In this episode, Sam Vecenie chats with Chris Stone and recaps the NBA Draft, breaking down everything that happened over the course of the five-hour event. Who did we think did well? Who did poorly? What prospects and picks did we like? Which ones did we think made less sense? 

We basically go in chronological order, pick-wise -- occasionally breaking that to talk about trades. 

Jun 20, 2018

In this episode, I chat with Jeff Goodman from Stadium and Chris Stone from Sporting News about the NBA Draft. First, Jeff and I chat about some of the key storylines leading into the draft, from trade discussions to the recruitment, background, and development of some of the best prospects in the draft, including Deandre Ayton, Michael Porter, Mitchell Robinson, and more. 

Then, I chat with Chris Stone about the difficulty of mocking this draft just 26 hours from draft night. What do we think of all the trade talks, what do we think of the Kings, Hawks, Grizzlies, and more. 

Jun 19, 2018

In this episode, I chat with good friend of the program Cole Zwicker where we do what will likely become yet another yearly tradition on the podcast: We go through and do a mock draft with what each of us would do. We go back and forth, with me taking the No. 1 pick and all of the resulting odd picks, and Cole taking No. 2 and the even picks. We had a lot of fun and discussed each potential pick in detail. Hope you all enjoy! 

Jun 15, 2018

In this episode, Cole Zwicker joins Sam Vecenie to chat about the 2018 NBA Draft, but first they talk about the 2019 NBA Draft. 

Charles Bassey committed to play at Western Kentucky for the 2018-19 college hoops season, so Sam and Cole break down Bassey, his game, what they've seen in the past, and how he projects as a prospect (2:00). They also chat a bit about the 2019 NBA Draft as a whole. 

Then, they get into the meat of the podcast, where they break down Sam's top-eight prospects in the 2018 NBA Draft Class. In order, they chat about Miles Bridges (8:30), Trae Young (19:55), Michael Porter Jr. (37:15), Mohamed Bamba (43:45), Jaren Jackson Jr. (53:20), Marvin Bagley (1:07:40), Luka Doncic (1:29:15), Deandre Ayton (1:48:45). 

Jun 12, 2018

In this episode, Sam Vecenie is joined by Cole Zwicker, where they go in-depth on Sam's current NBA Draft Board. 

They break down the structure and ideals behind the board, talk about the three players that were just slightly left off of the board, and then dive right into these prospects (in order): 

Zhaire Smith (13:20),Troy Brown (22:50), Robert Williams (29:50), Lonnie Walker (37:45), Kevin Knox (45:50), Mikal Bridges (53:00), Wendell Carter (1:02:15), Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (1:10:10), Collin Sexton (1:20:15). 








Jun 8, 2018

In this episode, Cole Zwicker joins Sam Vecenie and chats about the Warriors' remarkable team, then what happens after the Warriors. What does the NBA look like when the Warriors' run finally ends? Are we entering an era where the league will conform back to big men based off of the talent entering the league?

Then, they chat about Bryan Colangelo's collars and the absurdity of the situation, and Deandre Ayton seeming to be the next No. 1 overall pick. 

Finally, they chat about the restricted free agency market. They break down Clint Capela, Aaron Gordon, Jabari Parker, Julius Randle, Marcus Smart, Dante Exum, Zach LaVine, and many more. 

Jun 5, 2018

In this episode, Sam Vecenie is joined by Cole Zwicker where they discuss many levels of basketball. First, they break down the Cavs-Warriors series, and discuss potential defensive adjustments for Cleveland in addition to Cleveland's rotation. Can the Cavs do anything to make a comeback?

Then, they delve into the Celtics Jaylen Brown and Mohamed Bamba rumors. Why this makes no sense for Boston, and why the Mavs should take such a deal if offered (even if the venerable Tim Cato already said they would not). 

Finally, the bulk of the podcast is spent breaking down Deandre Ayton. They discuss him for an hour, going over his strengths and weaknesses, and delving deep into what makes him such a special -- if incomplete and somewhat controversial -- prospect. They discuss his production, his scoring, his jump shot, ball-handling acumen, rim protection, ability to defend the perimeter, and overall instinct level, in addition to discussing the overall upside or downside of his game. It's a legitimate discussion where we go back and forth, disagreeing on many aspects of the Arizona prospect's game. 

May 31, 2018

In this episode, Cole Zwicker joins the show to chat about everything that happened in a totally bananas Game 1 in the NBA Finals. From LeBron's legendary performance, to JR's legendary gaffe, we break it down from all the angles for 45 minutes.

Then, we chat a bit about Bryan Colangelo, and how the 76ers basically have to fire him at this stage. Finally, we break down the biggest and most important decisions of the 2018 NBA Draft Deadline. Kevin Huerter, Donte DiVincenzo, Jontay Porter, Omari Spellman, and more. 

May 28, 2018

In this episode, Tony Jones from the Salt Lake Tribune joins Sam Vecenie and chats about the NBA Playoffs, covering the Utah Jazz, and some NBA Draft stuff. 

First, they break down what they've seen so far in the NBA, chatting before the Game 7s of the Conference Finals. Did the Conference Finals save what has been a relatively non-compelling playoffs? Is this LeBron run the best playoff run we can remember? How underappreciated is Klay Thompson all-time, and how good has Draymond been on defense in this playoff run? 

Then, we chat about Tony's year covering the Jazz. What do we think happens with the Jazz this offseason, what with all of their contract situations and trade flexibility? We also talk about the first year covering Donovan Mitchell, and getting to banter back and forth with legendary shit-talker Joe Ingles everyday. 

Finally, we chat about the NBA Draft, where I ask Tony a barrage of questions. Who is the best player? Who is the best big man? Is he a Michael Porter fan? Who is the best point guard in this class? Who is the most underrated player? Who is the most overrated player? 

May 23, 2018

In this episode of the podcast, Sam Vecenie chats with Cole Zwicker about the exceptional Game 4 Houston played against Golden State on Tuesday night. That leaves the series 2-2. We do a deep dive on how Houston weathered the storm and beat them, then chat about the Warriors and how they missed Andre Iguodala. What do we think happens going forward? 

Then, a quick discussion about the Cleveland-Boston series before Game 5 tonight. Mostly, we chat about how Boston could potentially adjust on defense, then talk about the Tristan Thompson adjustment. 

Finally, we do an in-depth breakdown on Michael Porter Jr. What makes him such an elite level prospect? Why, despite missing most of the year at Missouri, is he considered a potential top-five pick? 

May 19, 2018

In this episode, Sam Vecenie is joined by Cole Zwicker to break down everything that happened at the 2018 NBA Draft Combine. From the measurements to the five on five, they pick some winners and losers from the event, discuss the forthcoming decisions of guys like Josh Okogie, Tyus Battle, and Kevin Huerter, and chat about the measurements of some of the elite players in the class. 

Also, does Mo Bamba have longer arms than any human alive?

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